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    Monday, July 10, 2006

    Are We Not Liberal?

    Gay Ruling Shows New York Is Less Liberal Than It (and the U.S.) Thinks from NYT takes on New Yorkers' political self-perception. Apparently, we're not that liberal.

    I just got back from Colorado though, and, um, New York feels pretty liberal to me. Just saying.

    "The key will be how many people start arriving at Lincoln Center in pickups with gun racks," he said. Thanks, Christopher Buckley. That is the key, isn't it? You're still liberal until you've got the pickups. It's not really about voting.

    Which is kind of the point here. It's not people's voting patterns that make folks think NY is liberal. As Sam Roberts points out, NYC has elected several Republican mayors. The difference is cultural, and that is no small thing. Americans are not going to start envisioning NY as a bastion of social conservatism because of this appalling same-sex marriage thing. Why? Because same-sex couples walk down the street hand-in-hand. Because getting married at 18 here is uncommon. Blah, blah, blah.

    The other thing is that, in NYC, the people who are super-religious tend not to be "prominent figures" (read class into that as thou wilt), unlike in, say, Colorado. Everyone can vote in NY, but you won't see the "culture" of most of those voters represented because they don't have the money/power.

    4 Comments:

    Blogger RachelsTavern said...

    Well there's NYC, suburban NYC, and upstate. NYC probably seems very liberal, but the further away you get the less liberal you get.

    I do have to say that I thought Connecticut was more liberal than Mew York. I'm sure that would surprise a lot of people, but that definitely is my perception about the two states overall.

    7:48 PM  
    Blogger RachelsTavern said...

    Mew York, LOL!!

    7:49 PM  
    Blogger Jean said...

    I thought the 'Mew' was on purpose, and I was trying to figure out exactly what it meant, like zoning out on it, then I blinked and realized it was a booboo. :)

    9:04 AM  
    Blogger EL said...

    Mew York - that's cute!

    I would assume CT would be more liberal too, actually. That doesn't surprise me.

    The article's other flaw, as you allude, Rachel, is its indeterminate use of "New York" - sometimes he means NYC, sometimes he means NY state.

    12:20 PM  

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